outboard motor restoration, removing broken bolts,
|Methods of Removing Stubborn Bolts From Outboards|
Below I will describe 3 different situations and how I overcame them. You will notice that all three are different, yet similar. The process remains pretty well the same. There may be some duplication here as they are used in 3 separate articles then combined here for ease of accessibility.
Don't Break it
Off to Start With :
(1947 2.5hp Elgin restoration)
Here you MAY have
some choices, depending on where it is broken, and if there is part of it
protruding enough to get Vise-Grips onto etc. The other option is to just
leave it broken off and go with one less bolt IF that is all that is broken, if
more than one then you will have to decide if it will create a functional
problem. Many times the stainless bolts are stuck worse than regular steel
bolts, because of the oxidation between the two different metals. And
stainless is a lot harder to drill than mild steel bolts. It will be a white
AND I have not had any luck using an Easy-Out in any of these bolts that are smaller than 3/8".
(1) If when you try to unscrew the bolt, it has resistance to where you feel it may twist off, (remember these will usually be 1/4" bolts) play it careful. Usually if you try to use penetrating oil in this case the oil will not get UNDER the bolt head. The corrosion will normally be between the bolt shaft and the metal surrounding it but not in the threaded area that it is threaded into. My solution here is to use a small angle head grinder to remove the bolt heads. Now you should be able to pry the cover plate off these now bolt studs.
Now use method #2 to remove what is still in the base material.
(2) If you have broken it off, and it is protruding enough to get ahold of it, (even a 1/4"), I would first soak the area with penetrating oil, If you do not have any, the best alternative is hydraulic brake fluid. However a machinist's formula seems to perform as good or better than any over the counter penetrating oil, is automatic transmission fluid mixed 50/50 with acetone.
Build a dam around the broken bolt if possible with modeling clay. Let it set for a few days and during this time, tap the protruding broken end with a hammer a few times. This vibration tends to break the bond and allow the oil to soak further in. Now try a Vise-Grip pliers to see if it will turn. If it does, only move it slightly, then back up, then try to loosen it again. If you do it all at once, you can break it off again, and this time flush with the housing, which complicates matters. OK, this is the easy one if you got it out. If not, then you might try to heat the aluminum up slightly with a torch in the area of the broken bolt. Don't get it overly hot as you may melt the aluminum. What this may do is about the same as tapping it with the hammer in that the aluminum will expand faster than the steel bolt and may help break any bond between the two. Do the soak and tap again. Try the Vise-Grips again. If it takes you a week, it is better than the alternative. DON'T GET IN A HURRY.
In the photos below even after the bolt heads were removed, it was a chore to even remove the head because of all the corrosion on the sides of the bolts. With more penetrating oil and a waiting process, 5 of the 8 were able to be removed. The other 3 needed to be drilled out, then the threads were Helicoiled. Partial threads survived on these 3, but since these screws held the head on, it seemed prudent to fix it right.
|Here the head bolts were corroded enough that when the 1st one broke, it was decided to set it up in a milling machine & cut the heads off the bolts||The head is now off the cylinder so that the removal of the bolts can now be easier|
(3) If the above failed or the broken bolt is flush with the housing, I would again use the soak and tap/heat method, but now you have to drill it out as close to the exact center of the broken bolt as possible. If it is a 1/4" bolt the hole size on the inside of the threads is about 3/16". I would use a center punch, try to locate as near as possible the center of the bolt. Remember that this small bolt the threads being a spiral, that you will see the outside of the threads, while on the other side you will be seeing the female part of the casting as looking straight down on it. Try to locate the center where there are no threads. Tap the center punch lightly. Look to ascertain if it is near where you want it. If not then place the center punch back in the original hole, angle the head end away from where you want the hole to really be. Tap it again at this angle whereby you may shift the original punched hole slightly. When satisfied that is is as close as you can get it then clamp it in a large drill press or milling machine, so you can clamp the part RIGIDLY so you can control the drilling. If you do not clamp it securely to the drilling unit, the part WILL shift AND you will drill off to the side.
DO NOT DRILL IT BY A HAND DRILL WITH NO RIGID SUPPORT. Use
a GOOD sharp drill bit with the hopes it will drill straight and not run out to the
side. You can drill it with a hand power drill motor, BUT the odds are that
you will not be able to hold it straight then the bit will wonder (TAKE MT
WORD FOR IT). Use a cutting
oil on the drill as you are drilling. If you succeed in having it centered,
the bit will go hard, until it breaks out thru the end of the bolt. You may
be able to feel the difference it at this point, as it will break into a
hollow space below the broken bolt and into a deeper threaded section of the
casting, as the threads will always be slightly deeper than the bolt.
If you did not get the drill lined up exact or it shifted so the drill took out just part (1/4) of the threads on one side, this should be no problem as there should be enough to still hold. Now you can use an ice pick or cape chisel to get under one side of what is left of the threads then work them out. And possibly use a Dremel tool with a carbide dental burr to cut the bolt shell in enough pieces to extract them from the threaded hole. This will free the hole enough to run a tap into it and clean up the threads.
(4) If the above #3 failed and the drill ran out to one side, you will have to enlarge the hole enough to install a Helicoil. This is simply a somewhat square wire tightly wound as a spring in the exact thread pitch as the desired new threads. You will need to purchase a Helicoil kit, which includes the proper drill size, oversize tap and an installation tool. Here again it may be best to use a rigid drill press or milling machine, clamp the part to ensure you get it close enough to align the new threads to the other mating surface. Here you might use a appropriate undersize end mill to clean up the butchered hole and remove what is left of the broken bolt before you use the Helicoil drill. Follow the instructions on the tool.
(5) As in #4 if you have tried to hand drill the bolt out, the drill will run to one side because you can not hold it steady. This usually will then drill out possibly 1/2 of the thickness of the bolt/screw. You can take a round punch and grind it to a taper on one side of the tip, then use the long edge to try to get under the remaining bolt that is now partially drilled. If the hole goes all the way thru you are in luck as this is easier to break up the pieces, then drive any out the bottom. If it is a blind hole, you will again try to punch the part that still has some threads on it out into the hole, loosening it. You may then have to use a Dremel grinder along with carbide dental burrs to cut this part of the bolt into small sections so it can be removed.
You now need to clean the hole, possibly run a tap the same size as the bolt threads to be sure there are no pieces left in the hole. Mix up a metal type epoxy, (JB Weld) pretty much filling the gouged out hole. Spray a silicone or smear Vaseline onto the treads of new bolts and using the part that the bolt held on to align the bolts to hold them in place and from tipping, insert the bolts doing a slight twisting motion to get the epoxy into the threads. Use the other bolts also that hold the parts together so you can tighten them. You will probably have some threads left internally to somewhat grip, but DO NOT really tighten as you do not want to strip out what is there. Let it harden to about 80%, try to slightly unscrew these bolts just enough to break any bond that may have occurred. Let it set and when cured remove the bolts, file off any excess epoxy and then reinstall.
Bolt in Lower Unit :
(1987 9.9 hp Johnson water pump
impeller change) This may happen when
you try to separate the upper housing from the lower unit. If
the 2 center bolts are the broken ones they are probably the least
important ones and this HP of motor may well operate without them. However here
is a method if repair other than a complete upper housing replacement.
The housing is aluminum with the bolts being stainless steel, not a good combination to remove in the 1/4" size. So first off try NOT to break the bolts. If a bolt does not want to unscrew without excessive force, try another to get a feel as to what it takes to break the bolt loose initially. Then go back to the stuck one and try again. If the bolt moves even slightly in a tightening direction, it probably is frozen and all you are doing is to twist the bolt itself. Not a good thing, be careful as it may be seized and you are simply twisting the bolt. Rap on the bolt head with a hammer, trying to jar it a bit. Don't be mislead into thinking it is starting to unscrew as it may just be starting to twist into. If you suspect this, try to rap it with a hammer and retighten a bit, then again try to unscrew it.
Usually not all are seized so by trying others you should get the feel of the ones that will unscrew as compared to the other seized ones. If it does not want to unscrew, leave it and use the method below.
In the photo below, after observing many of these, I suspected the corrosion was between the lower unit hole and the bolt body itself, not in the threaded section. The bolt did not want to readily unscrew. Leave it in and proceed as below.
Here I use about a 3/32" drill bit, drill a hole in both of the housings where the bolt shank goes thru the lower unit AND into the upper housing where the bolt is threaded into. Drill in just until you hit the bolt body. You may want to be sure you even go into the bolt ever so slightly, but just enough to open a channel into the housing threads. Put some penetrating oil into these holes. Tap the aluminum with a small hammer at this location. The purpose of this is to try to get some of this penetrating oil to get into the shaft and threads. The tapping may expand the aluminum slightly plus allow some of the oil to seep into the threads. Let it set for a couple of days. Tap some more, put more oil in the holes, try to unscrew the bolt. If after about 3 tries of this, and you still don't succeed, use an Oxygen/Acetyne torch, heat the area at the threads to where the paint is burned off. Put more penetrating oil in the holes then let it cool. Try to unscrew the bolt again. If it starts, then back it up to tight, then loosen it again to just slightly more than the first try. Keep tightening/loosening a little at a time until either the bolt unscrews, or breaks off.
|Here you will see 2 holes drilled into both housings where penetrating oil was allowed to soak into the bolt body & threads for 5 days. Tapping the upper area with a hammer resulted in the paint being damaged, but it loosed the seized bolt|
Now it would be best IF there is any bit of a stump of the bolt protruding to soak it with a penetrating oil repeatedly for a few days. Tap on this broken bolt as you soak it. Then try to get a ViseGrip plier onto what is protruding then slowly work it back and forth. If it does not move even slightly soak and tap again. If still no movement then heat the bolt with a torch as above, while warm soak again with a penetrating oil. Note one of the best penetrating oils is common brake fluid.
As mentioned before, the drill the bolt and use an Easy-Out, usually does not work on these corroded bolts because of the size of the bolt, you can not get a large enough Easy-Out in the small bolt, which just wedges the bolt sides tighter into the threaded hole. Or you may break the EasyOut in the bolt and that is way worse getting it out.
Many times if a motor has been left with the lower
unit in the water for extended periods of time, (like on a sailboat)
where just the bolts into the extended housing will be seized.
This is not as bad even if numerous bolts become twisted off simply
because once you have the extension off the motor it is easier to work
on repairing the broken bolts.
A method I would use is to drill, roto-root with a Dremel Tool etc. to remove the broken bolt. A trip to your personal dentist and twist his arm for any discarded carbide dental burrs. These are small and fragile, but do very good when a hole is drilled into the broken bolt where these burrs are used to go inside the hole and cut what is left of the bolt into 2 pieces which make then for a lot easier removal.
The oil holes can then be cleaned and an epoxy or body putty can be used to fill the holes, being sure that the threads are protected. Touch up paint is easier to do than breaking a bolt.
Method of Repairing a Wallowed Out Thread Hole :
If the hole gets wallowed out bad enough by not having a drill press or milling machine, then you can go to Plan C, which is, OK now I have an oversize hole that needs threads and in the right location. You will now have to tip the motor upside down or in a position where the hole is up. Make a template of the bolt pattern, (thin aluminum or heavy paper) mix up a metal type epoxy, (JB Weld) and pretty much fill the gouged out hole. Spray a silicone onto the treads of new bolts, then using the template to align the bolts, hold them in place and from tipping, insert the bolts doing a slight twisting motion to get the epoxy into the threads. Let it harden to about 80%, try to slightly unscrew these bolts just enough to break any bond that may have occurred (not the other ones that did not break). Let it set and when cured remove the bolts, file off any excess epoxy, reinstall.
Twisted Off Bolts : (1980 70 hp Johnson power trim/tilt motor replacement) Shown in the left photo below are two of the four twisted off bolts in a Johnson 70 hp power trim/tilt unit. They were soaked with penetrating oil and pounded on with a hammer occasionally for a week. Then even tried to be heated with a Oxy/Acetylene torch, however 2 of these bolts were so close to the oil reservoir that not much heat could be applied without fear of damaging the interior valves & other parts. However one broken bolt was removed using a Vise Grip plies during this operation.
With these 3/8" bolts that tight, it became obvious that ay Easy Out would not do any good, and would possibly even worsen things. So on to plan "B" fro this job. This would be mount the unit on a vertical milling machine. Since it was so large a unit, even the 6" mill vise was dwarfed. So a 10" angle plate had to be clamped onto the mill's table to hold the unit as square as possible. Then some sort of clamping method had to be devised to hold the unit against the angle plate.
Once the unit was mounted securely, the tops of the extended bolts were milled off flush with the base so it would be easier to locate center because of the Vise Grips had chewed up what was protruding. A sturdy center drill was used by eye-balling to locate the drill location. Since these bolts are 3/8" and I wanted to drill out the body to as close to the inner thread size, a 5/16" drill was the right size. The bolts was made of stainless steel, which has a nasty habit of work hardening if the drill is or gets dull, ran too fast and or without lubricant/coolant, so the RPM of the mill was reduced to 240 for this operation.
A good sharp drill and lots of lubricant was used. Everything went well in drilling out the broken bolt. At the very end of the bolt when the drill caught, it pushed the short un-drilled end deep into the threaded hole, but this was OK as if needed, the new bolt could be and was shortened slightly to compensate.
In the photo on the
right below one bolt has been drilled out while the other is still protruding.
|Broken bolts during removal of the unit||Drilling out the broken bolts in a milling machine|
Clean Out Threads : With the center of the 3 bolts drilled out, now an ice-pick was used to dig out some of the remaining threads. A Dremel tool was also used with a small round stone to remove part of the old bolt that I had not gotten the drill exactly centered on. Grinding and picking produced parts of the old bolt threads as shown in the photo below.
With the old thread pieces removed, a 3/8"x 16TPI tap was ran inside the threads to clean up any damaged areas. Also this tap was ran thru the other good threads. This drilled out hole may have become slightly enlarged since the center drill was not centered exactly, but enough of threads were retained to hole considering there were 6 total bolts holding this unit in place.
This particular unit uses (4) 3/8" x 1 1/2" and (2) 3/8" x 3" stainless steel bolts.
Before total reassembly a 3/8" drill was ran thru the clamp bracket endplates to remove any corrosion debris. During reassembly of the unit into the brackets, a anti-seize compound was applied to both the threads and shank of the new bolts.
In the photo below using the rigid milling machine for precise alignment you can see that the main bolt body was drilled out and only the threads needed to be picked out of the aluminum housing.
|Broken bolts & the dug out threads after drilling|
One precaution here that may help someone at a later date would be to before you reassemble things to run a proper size tap (1/4" X 20 TPI being the normal size for most small outboards) into each of these holes cleaning up the threads. Then when you reassemble the unit, place a dab of anti-seize compound on the threads.
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